tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134264300148652933.post8283564641298737032..comments2012-01-31T16:26:37.488-08:00Comments on Design-Language: Contemporary Problems, Response to Chapter 81956http://www.blogger.com/profile/08931404250590429676noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134264300148652933.post-78297085576872378612011-12-15T13:45:06.848-08:002011-12-15T13:45:06.848-08:00http://shelbyysdn.blogspot.com/2011/12/chapter-8-r...http://shelbyysdn.blogspot.com/2011/12/chapter-8-response.htmlShelbyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00923591492422348801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134264300148652933.post-16904752109714037652011-12-13T23:16:05.883-08:002011-12-13T23:16:05.883-08:00Postmodernism and Modernism coexist to create new ...Postmodernism and Modernism coexist to create new definitions, new audiences, approaches, rebellions, parodies, and create new cultures. The problems of both movements balance each other and push one another to establish an identity. However, the way modern society translates these thoughts has developed and changed the way we view media and new art forms. With the increase in flexibility and ease of new, modern technology, comes new approaches to Indie Media.<br /><br />Popular culture has become mass culture and Indie Media has become easier to establish and build. Artists and creators are able to go beyond the former popular culture to create something new, something postmodern. However, the question remains if this source of flexibility has hindered the essence or depth within art. Jameson seems to disagree with the new forms of media, parody and pastiche stating how passively we accept new ideas and how emotionless, thoughtless and shallow the new world has become, a mere cool surface image. I must agree with Jameson on his thoughts of Design schizophrenia and lack of depth in Design cultures I see today, especially in new works and through parodies.<br /><br />Design today is being recycled again and again, parodies are constantly forming whether they are intended or not. I see around me, when I travel, online, all types of works and images that are parodies whether the designer realize their influence or not. Especially within Indie Media, there are influences and a care for aesthetics. I think a lot of work has become a repetition of the past, a parody made to look good and be safe. Once an idea has been done, an art movement has been recognized, it is as if the style has been confirmed or socially accepted. It is almost impossible to reject an idea that has been layered with value through our own textbooks. In this way I agree with Jameson that new media and images have no depth in their meaning as they work as a safe reproduction of the original with a modern message embedded into its stolen style. The message has been conveyed out of context as a parody with no account to the style's historical context or cultural reference. Style has become almost an excuse for new art forms to be respected and if we are able to label it, then we passively accept it. <br /><br />Through this I question authenticity and innovation. If Postmodernism is a rebellion against the modern movement, then why will new forms of art just be a safe reproduction of an originally modern thought? I think the problem truly lies in the reliance of the historically and socially accept styles of the past as a fail proof concept of today's work. Postmodernism lies without firm roots as society becomes more easily accepted and deficit in attention.Karoline Kwonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10601141266304465669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134264300148652933.post-36646717449663502552011-12-11T01:45:52.510-08:002011-12-11T01:45:52.510-08:00Popular forms of culture are constantly changing. ...Popular forms of culture are constantly changing. The way technology evolves affect these changes. Because of today's technology, there really isn't anything that separates pop culture from Indie media. I believe that pop culture and mainstream media will eventually be Indie media.<br /><br />Since today's technology allows us to easily share media, anything can be downloaded from the internet. For instance, today, we just "share" and download all out music off the internet whereas back in a time before iTunes and Napster, we would have to go out and buy a physical CD or cassette. This has caused the music business to drop. Musicians began to seek new business models and more and more musicians began to market their music independently.<br /><br />With today's tools like Myspace and Youtube, music can be spread around to a wide audience very quickly without the help of a major record label. Bands like Metric were once categorized as "indie." But since, they have become very popular and their music can be hear on television, and on radio. Their popularity had made them "mainstream." Therefore, today's Indie media and pop culture can essentially be the same thing.<br /><br />- Amy Tangamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00351264495678259970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134264300148652933.post-85915093421756224952011-12-09T20:08:55.843-08:002011-12-09T20:08:55.843-08:00I think that in some ways modernism, in the sense ...I think that in some ways modernism, in the sense that there is still a desire for progress, has not died. This desire is not necessarily a desire for progress of visual form. The way we pursue technologies (green technologies, “smart” technologies) is definitely similar to the way technologies were pursued during the modernist movement. Modernism and Postmodernism both questioned the previous cultures before them—for modernism, “is this necessary”, “how can we be more clear or efficient”. For postmodernism, “why should I be clear”, “why not use something just because”. Postmodernism, as Pinkney said, at one point did continue the role of modernism, by de-familiarizing and questioning form, but in a popular idiom.<br /><br />It seems to me that modernism, while focused on objective progress, pushed and pursued dominant, homogenous ways of representing things. Postmodernism questions this need for a dominant mode of representation, division, objectivity, and directness. These things aren’t necessary in all situations. Postmodernism still exists in a form too, the parody, and the seemingly never-ending pastiche of style. I don’t think that, while parodic and reliant on sarcasm and pastiche, popular culture is inadequate in terms of igniting progress. As Jameson put it, we live in a postmodern culture of depthlessness, schizophrenia, waning of affect, and intense experiences from which we cannot derive deeper meaning.<br /><br />Hal Foster wrote that modernism was successful in pushing for innovation, but that it became the norm. It seems now that the norm is of parody, pastiche, and an acceptance of many styles, that postmodernism has lost it edge in the way of questioning culture. <br /><br />I think that design’s escape from the constant parody may be new technologies, just as new technologies allowed the modernists of the past to innovate and explore new modes of communication. While visual pun, parody, and pastiche may be softer approaches than the stifling need for objectivity and rationality of modernism, they do challenge culture on some level, but offer no solutions, only short escapes or entertainment.Ellen Saundershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02993944778378438947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134264300148652933.post-45245232413736434582011-12-09T17:23:57.788-08:002011-12-09T17:23:57.788-08:00http://chriswongysdn.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/cont...http://chriswongysdn.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/contemporary-problems-in-design-chapter-8-blog-response/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134264300148652933.post-75897923616964746952011-12-09T14:41:32.875-08:002011-12-09T14:41:32.875-08:00The pastiche nature of postmodernism has, undoubte...The pastiche nature of postmodernism has, undoubtedly, spawned a generation of irony and parody. Popular culture has grown with postmodern ideas to accelerate this nature in an almost overbearingly self-reflective style. As this meme grows (and, in fact, internet "memes" grow), one is left to wonder what the future of postmodernism is. What's next? Can society parody itself into an endless cycle? The knowledge that the concept of originality is, essentially, non-existent is not only a detriment to our collective psyche, but a detriment to our society's creative future. <br /><br />As popular culture loses confidence in itself, indie media instead is beginning to gain more attention, maybe because of its ability to be creative without the constraints of the status quo, or maybe actually due to its lack of confidence in itself—another example of self-reflectivity. So, is this the best response? Maybe it is. If postmodernism concerns itself primarily with objectivity, perhaps it is smaller communities and locally-based creative parties that culture needs to focus on.emma dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04951829939550087875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134264300148652933.post-6460778368764844212011-11-30T20:35:06.719-08:002011-11-30T20:35:06.719-08:00Claudia Yuen
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